A study for mainstream Christians who insist on resisting God’s Torah

Refiners Fire

Since its inception in 2001, The Refiner’s Fire has received an endless barrage of hate mail from Christians hammering us with the the tiresome mantra, “We’re not under the law; we’re under grace because Jesus nailed it to the cross.” We’ve literally spent years answering these emails and attempting to defend God’s Word according to what the Bible actually says, but most of the time our Scripture-laden comments fell on deaf ears. We have therefore, written the following article designed to capture the essence of these Christians comments, which will free us from the burden of having to spend time bickering back and forth to defend the Bible. For those Christians who read this article and are desirous of meaningful dialogue, we will be happy to correspond with you, but we will no longer engage in endless discussions about how “Jesus nailed it to the cross” because the answer to that hackneyed phrase can be found below.

Are you an “on-fire” Christian who demands Truth, or are you one of those “lukewarm” types who likes the status-quo, even when you’re shown proof positive that what you believe is not Biblical? If you’re “lukewarm” you won’t like this article because what we have to say won’t fit into the little box you’ve put God in. But, if you have been “missing something” in church or simply feel that “something” is off with your brand of Christianity, then read on, because you will be pleasantly surprised!The Bible amply warns us that there will be many apostate people, false prophets and teachers and strange “beliefs” in the end times, and that only those who have the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit) residing within will be able to stand firm. At this point in time, there are three major “religions” in the world: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam – each with their own theologies, and each claiming to be the “right” one that possesses the keys to eternal life.

One of the basic tenets in each of the above religions is that sin is bad and that it requires Divine punishment. But, what constitutes sin? How can we know when we’ve sinned and, if we’re guilty, how can we stop sinning? It might come as a surprise to some, but the ONLY source of Godly wisdom about what constitutes sin is the Torah (the five Books of Moses); it is our only blueprint for moral living! The Koran’s “scriptures” – compiled some 600 years after the death of Messiah Yeshua (Jesus Christ) – were borrowed from Torah; and the Christian “New Testament”, while a continuation of the “Old Testament”, has been mistranslated and misinterpreted to the point where the Messiah outlined throughout the Tanach (OT) in no way resembles the Divine Being who actually walked among us and offered Himself as the Final Sin Sacrifice….

Case in point: Christianity insists that “Jesus abolished the law.” Unfortunately, they confused GOD’s law (Torah – His divine teachings) with MAN’s legalism and traditions, and consequently came up with an entire religion that has nothing to do with the teachings of the “Old Testament” God. While this might shock some, the answer becomes less muddled when we see how the Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines sin: “Transgression of the law of God”. Who transgresses God’s Law? Those who “practice lawlessness” – those who are without the Law (Torah)….Yeshua said:

Matthew 7: 23 I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.” 

Does this mean Torah saves? No! Belief in Yeshua is the only reason we have eternal life! Yeshua was our Final SIN Sacrifice; His death did not automatically abolish all of God’s rules, commands, and Divine teachings which are our only blueprint for moral living. That is a huge Christian misconception, and one most Christians will fight to the death to uphold. That is why we have written the article below.

http://www.therefinersfire.org/lets_get_biblical.htm

So, here is the challenge…Truth seeker or “lukewarm? Remember What you know is what you will be expected to give an account for are you up to it?

Are any of us?

Advertisements

  1. Jason

    i have been searching for days its 1 am and im so tired but i finaly found the atrticle that explains me… i am a christian who strongly belives in the grace of christ but i also be;live that studing the old testament or torah is still important its G-ds law and original word.. im so lost i dont attend church because i feal outta place with my belifes and no onein the jewish faith will accept me i asked a rabbi for help on another site but told me it was wrong for a christian to study and partcipate in torah traditions… please help

  2. Um.

    Someone should tell Jason about the Messianic Jews. 🙂

  3. branderudanders

    My name is Anders Branderud, I am 23 years and I am from Sweden. I have practised Orthodox Judaism through Netzarim (www.netzarim.co.il) in Ra’anana in Israel (led by the Orthodox Jew Paqid Yirmeyahu ha-Tzadiq), who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – since 2007-05. Before that I was a devoted Christian for 6 years.

    You write: “Does this mean Torah saves? No! Belief in Yeshua is the only reason we have eternal life! Y”

    The central tenet of Judaism is expressed in the Shema, where Tanakh states that one is required to do his or her utmost to keep Torah (which includes Halakhah as defined by the beit din in the legitimate Jewish community of Israel) and that only those who DO (not merely believe) this qualify for kipur [atonement] and resulting portion in olam ha-ba. The Torah IS the expression–and THE expression taught by Ribi Yehoshua–of how to treat both the Almighty and one’s neighbor with love. The NT, by contrast, is a post-135 C.E. Roman-Hellenist displacement counterfeit–and faith in a counterfeit Christ cannot provide “salvation.”

    This post is stating that it is Torah-practising Jews who are lost; that is not in accordance with Tan’’kh.

    Finding the historical Jew, who was a Pharisee Ribi and following him brings you into Torah, which gives you a rich and meaningful life here on earth and great rewards in life after death (“heaven”)!
    From Anders Branderud
    Geir Toshav, Netzarim (www.netzarim.co.il) in Ra’anana in Israel who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – Messiah – in Orthodox Judaism

  1. 1 A study for mainstream Christians who insist on resisting God’s Torah

    […] mountainviewcoc wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptThe Koran’s “scriptures” – compiled some 600 years after the death of Messiah Yeshua (Jesus Christ) – were borrowed from Torah; and the Christian “New Testament”, while a continuation of the “Old Testament”, has been mistranslated and … […]




Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s



%d bloggers like this: